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« on: February 14, 2018, 12:14:54 AM »

Late night listening to old Leftover tapes.... Got me thinking, from 95ish till late 2000 the band members didn't change. RIP Mark Vann, keep the beats going Mr. Apt, Tye you were always my favorite, but hey this is 2018 weird huh? Now that theres been crazy different members of LOS whats you guys's favorite era, album, song, what band formations post 2000 are your favorites?

 My first Leftover experience was C. Springs at Manhattans, around Jan 1996. I'd come from Ok, going to school for bicycle maintenance. I'd already heard leftover from boot tape traders I traded with, and couldn't believe I was getting to see them. You all know as well as me they killed it, and blew my mind, melted my face, and boogied my ass off..

So , no doubt I miss and love the pre piano leftover, I do love it when they play with a jazzy, simple keyboard/ piano. So where I'm going is, would it be possible to bring back The Apartment, and Tye North for a weekend of fun ole goodle times? Sure make me smile! Thumbs Up

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URL icon « Reply #1 on: February 14, 2018, 07:45:44 AM »

I'm not at all experienced with LOS so I am mostly following here because I have a lot of friends who are shocked that I don't totally "get it," but I have really enjoyed their "living room" / "acoustic brunch" shows; they're still ... them ... but it's toned down a little bit; the drums are a little quieter, the keys a little subtler, the party a little calmer, and for whatever reason that's my style with them. I stumbled upon their live stream of the Chicago City Winery show from last year and downloaded as soon as I could.
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URL icon « Reply #2 on: February 14, 2018, 10:15:22 AM »

I still love LOS after Vann died, and the Apartment and Tye North left that original wild polyethnic cajun slamgrass melded more into a honkey tonk sound with the addition of keyboards. I love Greg Garrisons playing, especially when he plays upright. The current drummer gives them a lot more "island" sound with his percussion. The current arrangement when highly driven by the keyboards is not my favorite but does again move their sound forward.

If you haven't heard any shows from 95-99, I'd say those were the golden years where they were playing so fast and just outright having a blast on stage and you can really hear it in the music.

No matter what the line-up I'm super excited for Saturday night. Thumbs Up

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URL icon « Reply #3 on: February 14, 2018, 12:13:04 PM »

If you haven't heard any shows from 95-99, I'd say those were the golden years where they were playing so fast and just outright having a blast on stage and you can really hear it in the music.

Do you have any specific shows you'd recommend? I'm always exploring / rarely giving up on a band that I don't "get" (especially one that I feel like I should be into more significantly!)
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URL icon « Reply #4 on: February 14, 2018, 12:34:07 PM »

If you haven't heard any shows from 95-99, I'd say those were the golden years where they were playing so fast and just outright having a blast on stage and you can really hear it in the music.

Do you have any specific shows you'd recommend? I'm always exploring / rarely giving up on a band that I don't "get" (especially one that I feel like I should be into more significantly!)
Man I'd say just about any. I'd suggest one with a fun set list, one with lots of medleys and crazy covers. Here's one that popped up in a quick youtube search.
https://youtu.be/-9qiezJUOSU
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URL icon « Reply #5 on: February 14, 2018, 01:21:32 PM »

This video from early days really captures what I think of in my head when I think about Salmon. Holy mando shreds!
https://youtu.be/uqxrRIQQhI0

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This video from early days really captures what I think of in my head when I think about Salmon. Holy mando shreds!
https://youtu.be/uqxrRIQQhI0

I don't know about that date, but at that time the name Leftover Salmon did not exist, so it could have been either The Salmonheads, or The Left Hand String Band.  Flower
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URL icon « Reply #7 on: February 14, 2018, 01:48:18 PM »

This video from early days really captures what I think of in my head when I think about Salmon. Holy mando shreds!
https://youtu.be/uqxrRIQQhI0

I don't know about that date, but at that time the name Leftover Salmon did not exist, so it could have been either The Salmonheads, or The Left Hand String Band.  Flower
Bridges to Bert came out in 1993. The video is from 1995, Ask the Fish came out by then. Thought they moved to the LOS name by 1992.
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URL icon « Reply #8 on: February 14, 2018, 03:01:09 PM »

The name Leftover Salmon has been around since 12/31/89. Both The Salmonheads and Left Hand String Band toured individually for a bit after that, but that night is the official first show of Leftover Salmon.

My favorite line-up is honestly the current one. The 96-00 lineup would be probably my second favorite line-up. Mark Vann did things with the banjo that nobody before him had really done (even Bela's electric banjo never had as much rock style to it as Mark's). That rock and roll banjo is definitely what got me into LoS.

What Andy has done for the band has been amazing. There are times when I feel like he's channeling the essence of Mark. He's my favorite living banjo player and my second favorite banjo player of all time (Mark Vann is and always will be #1 for me).

Alwyn is the only drummer they've had who I think could hold a candle to Jeff Sipe, and I really hope he sticks around for a long time. They also need to let him sing more!

I know a lot of people are split on the new keyboard player, Erik Deutsch, but I love him. He injects just the right amount of space jammy stuff, but can also dial it back and keep it tight. I loved Bill Payne, but he was never meant to be a permanent fixture. I'll always miss Bill McKay, though. His piano playing and singing were something else.


I'm really excited for their mainstage show, and I'm hoping they get a Sheridan Nightgrass show as well, though I'll take the Palm without complaining! They are clearly having a more fun now than they have in years, and it really shows in the music. Their Oregon run last year was spectacular, and their DelFest set is probably the best set of Salmon I've ever heard (I wish I had been there).
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URL icon « Reply #9 on: February 14, 2018, 03:05:23 PM »

If you haven't heard any shows from 95-99, I'd say those were the golden years where they were playing so fast and just outright having a blast on stage and you can really hear it in the music.

Do you have any specific shows you'd recommend? I'm always exploring / rarely giving up on a band that I don't "get" (especially one that I feel like I should be into more significantly!)

https://archive.org/details/los1998-03-28.flac

This is probably my favorite show from that time period. I've used it to get many a person into LoS. Sam Bush sits in on fiddle and electric guitar all night, plus there's a bonus horn section!  Well worth the download.

The 12/31/99 show is also worth a download. https://archive.org/details/los1999-12-31.shnf

Honestly, you can go to archive, and find anything from that period that was a full show and it'll be off the hook.
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URL icon « Reply #10 on: February 14, 2018, 05:50:53 PM »

I first saw LoS in 1994 when they played a late night show in Telluride. The following year they played main stage in the rain with a smoking version of Paint it Black. Maybe a 140 or more shows later they are still one of my favorite bands. I probably like the current version as much as any they have. I love the fact that you can see them four nights in a row without a song repeat, as I saw in 2015 in Hawaii. Add that Vince sometimes includes me in the lyrics, Bloomington, IN 2017. I do find it strange that people want the same members to stay with them throughout their career, lives change and I wouldn't want to be still working with same people all those years. Although The Rolling Stones are going on 55 years with the same core of players. Looking forward to seeing them again this weekend and to the new album and summer shows.
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Back when I lived in CO, the first day I arrived there, I ran into Vince at the grocery store. He invited me to a party in Eldora. Since I was the only one who didn't have their instrument, I became the designated J roller. It was a good time!  :burn
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URL icon « Reply #12 on: February 15, 2018, 08:04:05 AM »

I love all this LOS chatter and hearing peoples stories about the band. Just to be clear I love all formations of LOS, I'm just partial to the OG line-up, and the absolute wild and craziness that used to be a LOS show. Bill McKay was my favorite keyboard player they used, well Bill P was amazing but that was brief.
Has anyone here been able to catch one of the shows of Danny Barnes playing with the Apartment on drums? I'm guessing these shows have been amazing!!!
Mark Vann is one of my favorite banjo players, and certainly had a style that was not only unique and original but has since been rarely reproduced. Danny Barnes is probably my all time favorite banjo player followed by Noam, and Mark.
Luckily I caught a few shows when Noam was playing banjo in leftover, also saw a few with Tony Furtado, and a couple with the Rev. Jeff Mosier. Andy kills it, and they couldn't ask for a more appropriate replacement for Vann.

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This video from early days really captures what I think of in my head when I think about Salmon. Holy mando shreds!
https://youtu.be/uqxrRIQQhI0

I don't know about that date, but at that time the name Leftover Salmon did not exist, so it could have been either The Salmonheads, or The Left Hand String Band.  Flower
Bridges to Bert came out in 1993. The video is from 1995, Ask the Fish came out by then. Thought they moved to the LOS name by 1992.

Whoever uploaded the video messed up big time then, cause the date shown below the video says 10-20-65 which is 30 years earlier. Vince was just a pup around that time.  LOL
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I know a lot of people are split on the new keyboard player, Erik Deutsch, but I love him. He injects just the right amount of space jammy stuff, but can also dial it back and keep it tight. I loved Bill Payne, but he was never meant to be a permanent fixture. I'll always miss Bill McKay, though. His piano playing and singing were something else.

I'm really excited for their mainstage show, and I'm hoping they get a Sheridan Nightgrass show as well, though I'll take the Palm without complaining!

Just saw one of their Telluride shows a couple weeks ago, first chance hearing ED on keys.  I generally liked him for the reasons you mentioned, but was wondering if he was too much of a chameleon on this front?  Then again, the band has several different "faces" anyhow.  Bill Payne was definitely my favorite ... regardless of his "Bruce Horsby temporary role".

Actually hoping to see Salmon at The Palm.  As much as I like SOH, it's always a sardine can sweatbox for sold out shows.
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